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Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:04):
Its unlikely a good mage would cause an evil familiar
Zirra.tegatards says (21:04):
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:04):
Mages, it depends
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:04):
Uneless they really suck xDD
Zirra.tegatards says (21:04):
Who "put down" the uplifts before the disapearance..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:05):
Um, 15-16 at the youngest, I think
Zirra.tegatards says (21:05):
Since the mage "parent" wouldn't have wanted to usually.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:05):
But 20 + is more common
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:05):
/imagines doctors abortioning them
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:05):
The Mage's Guild
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:05):
Which was the primary group who policed magic
Zirra.tegatards says (21:05):
How did they even know when uplifts are concieved/born.
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:06):
KEN DID THEY HAVE MILLS IN HUMAN TIEMS
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:06):
or idk factories
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:06):
Ah, they asked... um... what were you guys asking?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:06):
I got rather distracted
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:06):
Ah, they were advanced to, I think... early Steam engines
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:07):
But, no real factories
Zirra.tegatards says (21:07):
How did the Mage's Guild learn about the uplifts?
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:07):
Yeah IDK what mages guild is or anything /out of the loop here
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:07):
Who put down the uplift before the event that took away the humans?
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:07):
and putting down okay im lost xD
Zirra.tegatards says (21:07):
/talkin' about Uplift before humans poofed, Skwerl. 83
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:08):
did they have boats
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:08):
fishing boats
Zirra.tegatards says (21:08):
The Mage's Guild did, Cody.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:08):
Ken said before. XB
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:08):
And we're talking abbout how in Human times Skwerl, they didn't want Uplifts to be born
Zirra.tegatards says (21:08):
Now I'm asking him how they knew about the uplifts to put them down. XB
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:08):
Okay so humans put down any uplifts?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:09):
Before humans disappeared, humans put down Uplifts that were born
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:09):
Because, in the paast
Zirra.tegatards says (21:09):
Because future generations had a tendancy to try to free the Familiar "slaves".
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:09):
Uplifts caused a lot of trouble for human mages
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:09):
Sometimes killing them outright
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:09):
they were considered very dangerous
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:10):
And, the mages Guild was kind of like...
Zirra.tegatards says (21:10):
I wonder...what would happen if someone did a Familiar ritual with an uplift.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:10):
How would I put it
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:10):
Wouldn't work
Zirra.tegatards says (21:10):
Like...asked one to become their familiar..and then went through with it.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:10):
Why not?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:10):
THE MAGE'S GUILD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:11):
Was a group of wizards
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:11):
That acted partly as police force
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:11):
And partly as college/school system
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:11):
They taught magic
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:11):
And enforced the laws that the wizards had about magic
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:12):
Going through basic magical education, was pretty much required of every citizen
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:12):
Yes, Snowy they had boats
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:13):
And fishing boats, lol
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:13):
A really strict political group, right? :o
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:13):
Not really that strict
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:13):
The humans, thats what you were asking earlier, right, Snowy?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:13):
So...I assume they would learn about pregnant familiars or newborn uplifts through word of mouth and rumor?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:13):
i'm asking so i can make a flashback with no holes xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:13):
Well, and magical detection
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:13):
Some wizards are really really good at it, lol
Zirra.tegatards says (21:14):
Are uplifts really that easy to detect?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:14):
Okay, Snowy, heh
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:14):
Yes, actually
Zirra.tegatards says (21:14):
Also....why wouldn't the ritual to create a familiar work with an uplift?
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:14):
A magical preganacy text xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:14):
Magic practically burns in their veins
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:14):
*test
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:14):
They light up like a beacon
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:14):
because the animal in question had to be raised
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:14):
And carefully
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:14):
subjected to very specific magics
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:15):
If the right balance of factors is off
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:15):
Then the ritual would fail (a bad omen)
Zirra.tegatards says (21:15):
They couldn't just go...this doggy has been my best friend for years...I want him to be my familiar.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:15):
And the mage, having lost part of his spark/soul
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:15):
Would never be able to gain a familiar
Zirra.tegatards says (21:15):
They had to choose pretty much a completely strange animal...and hope they turned out as an okay familiar?
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:16):
Has it ever happened before? or is this theory that you know as fact for your story? :B
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:16):
/They were never allowed to join the Mage's Guild itself
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:16):
Like known cases?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:16):
Not a strange animal
Zirra.tegatards says (21:16):
And yeah...so..really it's not that it's impossible....just highly likely to fail..?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:16):
they could select as they please
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:16):
But, then they had to raise
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:16):
And condition it
Zirra.tegatards says (21:16):
Hmm.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:16):
Over time
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:16):
Before the actual ritua;
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:17):
*ritual
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:17):
ohh. hmm this might work then..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:17):
Known cases of Uplifts becoming familiars?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:17):
So...they don't technically gain a Familiar when they've graduated...
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:17):
yeah
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:17):
Like int he world /curious
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:17):
so people could raise them and give the Familiars to other people that wanted to try to ritual with them?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:17):
They get one a few years later...after they've raised the animal that will become their familiar?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:17):
The ritual is performed
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:17):
At the graduation
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:17):
Or attempts moreso
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:17):
or near it
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:17):
that have failed
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
Ah, its fact, there are similar things that could be done, but it wouldn't really be a familiar
Zirra.tegatards says (21:18):
Okay....I think you're contradicting yourself, love...
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:18):
xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
Failed attempts, yeah, there were a few
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
Documented
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
No........
Zirra.tegatards says (21:18):
You said they chose and make an animal their familiar at graduation.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:18):
But they have to raise it first?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
The animal is often gotten
Zirra.tegatards says (21:18):
So...wouldn't they have chosen it well before their graduation?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
When they begin their training
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
But they become a Familiar
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:18):
At the end
Zirra.tegatards says (21:19):
Okay....so they choose an animal when they begin training...and only make it their familiar when they graduate..
Zirra.tegatards says (21:19):
Okay.
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:19):
being a Familiar specifically means that the souls are connected then, right?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:19):
Usually thats the case
Zirra.tegatards says (21:19):
I sitll think it'd been neat to have an uplift Familiar. >..>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:19):
Yes
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:19):
wait.. why couldn't that happen?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:19):
Infact, a portion of the mage's soul
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:20):
Dwells inside the familiar
Zirra.tegatards says (21:20):
From what I understand Snowy....it's not that it couldn't happen.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:20):
Presence of magic, inside the animal
Zirra.tegatards says (21:20):
But that the balances for the ritual would be harder to control with an Uplift instead of a normal animal.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:20):
If its not a very specific sort
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:20):
disrupts the process
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:20):
Sorta like.... background noise
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:20):
Making Uplifts impossible
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:20):
Ahhh, that makes sense
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:21):
That kinda distrupts the process?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:21):
Yeah
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:21):
what if you .. did stuff so the magic wouldn't interfere
Zirra.tegatards says (21:21):
Yeah...was there any way to counteract that?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:21):
Its a very delicate process
Zirra.tegatards says (21:21):
Like a dampner or something...
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:21):
lol, guys
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:22):
If you dampened magic, you'd dampen all the magic involved in the ritual, and the magic the potential familiar was brought up in
Zirra.tegatards says (21:22):
Why would it have to dampen all the magic?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:23):
Becuase dampening magic is not that specific
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:23):
could you just.. match the magic..
Zirra.tegatards says (21:23):
But...couldn't they have dampened the uplift before hand...so that the ritual magic was uneffected?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:23):
like if the familiar of the mage had a child and then they used that..
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:23):
with.. idk
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:23):
The magic in the familiar they are brought up with
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:24):
Would still be dampened
Zirra.tegatards says (21:24):
Or...if the magic in an uplift is so easy to detect, couldn't they remove it temporarily...go through with the ritual...then put it back?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:24):
Brought up with?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:24):
What do you mean by that phrase?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:24):
The conditioning I mentioned
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:24):
Yeah... we're spending a lot of time on impossibilites
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:24):
xD
Zirra.tegatards says (21:24):
Nothing is impossible!
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:25):
Except when it is :B
Zirra.tegatards says (21:25):
But...really...I still don't get what you mean by that phrase.
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:25):
Zirra really wants herself a familiar Uplift, Ken.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:25):
What familiar are you talking about?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:25):
Do you mean the end result Familiar...
Zirra.tegatards says (21:25):
Or the Master's Familiar?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:25):
Does the Master's Familiar even have anything to do with the ritual?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:25):
The animal is conditioned as it is raised
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:25):
With a specific set of magicks
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:25):
To prepare it for the ritual
Zirra.tegatards says (21:26):
Is it possible to put a long term dampening on the original magic in the uplift at birth?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:26):
Before any conditioning begins?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:26):
could a mage have more than one familiar?
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:26):
he only has one soul spark to give
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:26):
Mages can only bond once
Zirra.tegatards says (21:26):
Or to seperate the magic out until they could go through the ritual?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:26):
what if it's to twin animals
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:26):
conjoined twins
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:26):
So, if his familiar dies, even, he won't be able to bond again
Zirra.tegatards says (21:27):
/probes Ken's mind world
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:27):
Possible, Snowy
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:27):
But.... rare
Zirra.tegatards says (21:27):
Gimme your information. 8D
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:27):
Only conjoined, though
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:27):
or could you toss two animals into the same ritual..
Zirra.tegatards says (21:27):
XD
EsinoLolly.tegatards says to (21:27):
Phhht XD
Zirra.tegatards says (21:27):
He beat you to it, Snowy. 8B
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:27):
That would result in a failure, I'm afraid
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:28):
what if it's like.. a angler fish
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:28):
brb gonna take a shower
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:28):
they were performing a ritual
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:28):
with tons of males stuck to it
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:28):
aight Cody D:
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:28):
and a bug crawled in
Zirra.tegatards says (21:28):
Of course...now someone needs to make like...a two headed snake Familiar. >w>
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:28):
/was thinking that >.>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:28):
And, no
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:28):
If a bug walks in and like...
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:28):
RUins it
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:28):
Dampening magic, of any kind, will disrupt the process
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:29):
No matter how latent
Zirra.tegatards says (21:29):
I think I shall have to give up on my dream of an Uplift turned Familiar......-sigh-
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:29):
OH what if you tried it with a pregnant animal
Zirra.tegatards says (21:29):
Though...he still hasn't outted my thoughts of removal of magic....until the ritual. >w>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:30):
Dampening magic
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:30):
magic in an Uplift's blood
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:30):
Is inherent to them
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:30):
/I barely do myself
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:30):
if you removed it
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:30):
You would kill them
Zirra.tegatards says (21:30):
I think it's a matter of me thinking of magic differently than you've built it for this world. XB
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:30):
!! what if you tried with a vampire bat and transfused a ton of blood
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:31):
Anyway, a pregnant animal in the ritual
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:31):
Has been done
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:32):
Uplifts are a unique result of a fetus being conceived
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:32):
When the creature is already a familiar
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:32):
ohhh, so it'd be a normal baby then
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:32):
The babies that result are more intelligent, but not otherwise effected
Zirra.tegatards says (21:33):
Sorta like Dregs?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:33):
Not a lot more intelligent
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:33):
Not as much as dregs, but exceptiopnally bright animals
Zirra.tegatards says (21:33):
Sorta like...just animals bred for brains.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:33):
yes
Zirra.tegatards says (21:33):
That'd be an interesting way to get smarter animals for the Familiar Rituals.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:33):
They coud be used for the rituals, but
Zirra.tegatards says (21:34):
Would that effect pass on to the animals offspring?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:34):
Would the intelligence stick through the generations?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:34):
Just more intelligent, generally
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:34):
xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:34):
Its not that cumulative though
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:34):
They weren't creating Dregs
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:34):
Dregs are, likewise, a result of the modern world
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:35):
from lots of Uplifts and apocalyptic residue right?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:35):
Is there any particular difference between a normal animal and one of these familiar-enhanced animals when they'd become Familiars?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:35):
Yes, Dook, exactly
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:35):
None at all
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:35):
So, while they could be used
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:35):
Theres not much point
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:35):
.. what if you used the familiar's child who was pregnant to make a familiar in that situation over generations
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:35):
That, and traditionally, it was avoided
Zirra.tegatards says (21:35):
Would the pregnancy make the ritual harder to pull off?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:36):
A bit, yeah
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:36):
Isolating the life force of the mother
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:36):
From the babies
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:36):
what if they were only a day pregnant?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:36):
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:37):
Pretty much just the same as the normal description Snowy
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:37):
Just, smarter babies/above average intelligence animals
Zirra.tegatards says (21:37):
Hmm...could they sell the offspring to like..farmers or something for training in non-Familiar futures?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:37):
They could not breed Dregs, so continued generations
Zirra.tegatards says (21:37):
To make a profit?
Uber.tegatards says to (21:38):
right now skwerl?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:38):
Would not create sentient animals
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:38):
Yes, Zirra
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:38):
ken
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:38):
Yeah?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:38):
what about the angler fish
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:38):
if you had a female with a bunch of males attached
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:39):
/asks all the specific randoms
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:39):
The males cease to really exist seperately
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:39):
no fish in the rp xD
Zirra.tegatards says (21:40):
What was the small continent we're on to the world of humans?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:40):
but, what if they were recent additions to the angler-female
Zirra.tegatards says (21:40):
Was it a hub of activity...or the boondocks?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:40):
could you use .. sea stars? to make familiars..
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:40):
/also
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:40):
They would be similar to the pregnant animals, Snowy
Zirra.tegatards says (21:40):
I don't think sea stars have brains, Snowy.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:40):
Unfortunatly not, Snowy
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:40):
octopuses?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:40):
At least not the way you need for Familiar-ising.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:41):
An Octopus, though, yeah
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:41):
that would be so badass
Zirra.tegatards says (21:41):
Octopi can come up on land you know. >w>
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:41):
why are familiars all smaller than wolves?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:41):
Fory extremely limited periods of time
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:41):
The lifeforce of the animal
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:41):
oh, and do they age after they become familiars?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:42):
I think it was because the bigger they are the larger chunk of "soul" was needed to make them a Familiar?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:42):
Thats part of it
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:42):
Because the size of the animal
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:42):
what if it was a mage that was a conjoined twin .. could they .. idek
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:42):
the larger the animal
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:42):
The more life essense/energy it has
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:43):
The more the wizard's soul has to bond with
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:43):
in that situation, could the twins put both their souls into one giant animal
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:43):
I'm afraid not
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:44):
failed ritual ):
Zirra.tegatards says (21:44):
I have a thought...human twins...are often thought to have a connection.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:44):
Two human souls, even conjoined, cannot enter a single familiar
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:44):
what about twins putting into twins ..
Zirra.tegatards says (21:44):
Would that connection pass on to their familiars?
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:44):
.. that would be so weird xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:44):
Not to the same extent as the humans
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:44):
The process actually distances twins a little bit
Zirra.tegatards says (21:45):
Could a human be turned into a Familiar.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:45):
/we're animals too
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:45):
Nope
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:45):
/asked that too once
Zirra.tegatards says (21:45):
/though we're a bit big
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:45):
Nope and nope and nope
Zirra.tegatards says (21:45):
How come? ow0
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (21:45):
xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:45):
Humans possess souls
Zirra.tegatards says (21:45):
...
Zirra.tegatards says (21:45):
So do animals. D8<
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:45):
aww ken you ruined my hopes and dreams
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:46):
The animals possess spirits/life energy in this setting
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:46):
Its the same reason
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:46):
A familair cannot themselves, create a familiar
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:46):
And the reason an Uplift or a Dreg cannot, either
Zirra.tegatards says (21:46):
That just sucks.
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:46):
It makes things less crazy though
Zirra.tegatards says (21:46):
What happens when an animal/dreg/uplift/familiar dies.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:46):
Much less crazy
Zirra.tegatards says (21:46):
Do they get the same treatment as a human?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
How do you mean?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:47):
As far as after life and stuff.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
Ah
Zirra.tegatards says (21:47):
Or reincarnation.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
Familairs
Zirra.tegatards says (21:47):
Or whatever.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
Rejoin their master's soul
Zirra.tegatards says (21:47):
Boo.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
OR THEY THINK
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
See
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
Its vague
Uber.tegatards says to (21:47):
/me is a ho
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:47):
OR SO THEY THINK.. it's a mystery
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:47):
They do not know
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:48):
generally, the familiars believe they will rejoin their Mater's soul
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:48):
Which is exactly what they want
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:48):
what if one of the conjoined twins familiar dies ... and the twins in question are necromancers..
Zirra.tegatards says (21:48):
That just sounds like another way to cease to exist to me. 8\
Zirra.tegatards says (21:48):
So...yeah...I wouldn't want that either.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:48):
Familairs... brought back from death...
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:48):
it .. sounded romantic to me, zirra xD in a odd way
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:48):
Rise as Fallen
Zirra.tegatards says (21:49):
>..>
EsinoLolly.tegatards says to (21:49):
Oooh~ My I have a look see of your other hos, Skwerl? :O
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:49):
OR SO THEY THINK.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:49):
Its not, at all
Zirra.tegatards says (21:49):
It didn't sound romantic to me at all, Snowy. XB
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:49):
fallen?
Zirra.tegatards says (21:49):
But...then...I like being me...
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:49):
Fallen are.... undead Familiars
Zirra.tegatards says (21:49):
And not a part of someont else.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:49):
And the way Ken worded it..
BlackisleFerret.tegatards says to (21:49):
OR SO THEY THINK
Zirra.tegatards says (21:49):
Sounds like the Familiar ceases to be seperate.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:49):
They don't cease to be
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:49):
Think of it as
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:49):
Just rejoining family
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:50):
They were always a part of each other
Zirra.tegatards says (21:50):
Yeah, Ken...but...it's...hmm.
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:50):
do familiars age after becoming familiars
Zirra.tegatards says (21:50):
It's like...okay..daemons from the Dark Materials trilogy.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:50):
Familiars cease to age
Zirra.tegatards says (21:50):
They're part of the people...completely.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:51):
Just an extension of the person.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:51):
Yes, its a lot like the Daemons
Zirra.tegatards says (21:51):
So they rejoin the person when they die.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:51):
But Familiars...in my head are a part of the person..
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:51):
.. could you get a baby whale and turn it into one ._.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:51):
In a different way.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:51):
Let me rephrase
Zirra.tegatards says (21:51):
Like if the person was born twice.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:51):
They reach adulthood
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:51):
And then cease aging
Zirra.tegatards says (21:52):
So...it doesn't seem as nice to me for them to "rejoin" with the mage's soul if they die.
Zirra.tegatards says (21:52):
But more like ceasing to exist. XP
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:52):
They do not
Zirra.tegatards says (21:52):
Like they'd never become Familiars to begin with.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:52):
Ever cease to exist in the rejoining
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:52):
This much is known from before the world fell apart
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:52):
The reason things are more vague now
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:53):
Is because the world, more or less broke
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:53):
because thats all the Familiar would know
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:53):
*familiars
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:54):
Before the Cataclysm, humans did not reincarnate in this setting
Dookster.tegatards says to (21:54):
I like that the Familiars have built the society for the Uplifts and Dregs, it's a really interesting concept
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:55):
as I said I can answer for before the cataclysm
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:55):
Before the cataclysm
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:55):
animal spirits
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:55):
were -known- to reincarnate some times
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:56):
And other times, remain at rest
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:56):
They did not cease
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:56):
BEFORE
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:56):
.. do the animals find their humans again
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:56):
Its assumed the same is true now
Zirra.tegatards says to Kensei Kitsune.u (21:56):
But it's not?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:56):
I can't say whether its the same
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:56):
I can only tell you
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:56):
can you make a familiar out of a reincarnated soul..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:57):
What you should know
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:57):
What kind, Snowy?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:57):
Humans don't reincarnate in this setting
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:57):
Only animals ever did, so yes
Zirra.tegatards says (21:58):
How did they know animals reincarnate?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:58):
Since most animals are probably reincarnated animals to begin with
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:58):
Animals have spirits
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:58):
A general equivalent to souls
snowybird.tegatards says to (21:58):
... could a mage that lost their familiar find their reincarnated familiar and make them a familiar again?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:58):
A mage who lost their familiar
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:59):
Snowy, when a mage bonds
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:59):
The soul shard the Mage links to the Familiar
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:59):
And the Spirit of the animal
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:59):
merge as one
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:59):
When the Familiar dies
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (21:59):
The shard of soul rejoins his life force, but it is damaged, and so cannot exit again
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:00):
And when the mage dies, the familiar goes with him
Zirra.tegatards says (22:01):
There's a question.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
The way the world broke
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:01):
could a familiar commit suicide
Zirra.tegatards says (22:01):
Other than the great oopsie..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
Prevents them from rejoining
Zirra.tegatards says (22:01):
Is it possible for a Familiar to live on after their mage dies?
Zirra.tegatards says (22:01):
At all?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
Potentially
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
If something could sever the link
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
But, if that happened
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
the familiar could likelydie
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
Also
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:01):
Some rituals that fail
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:02):
Fail in such a fashion
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:02):
that the animal is a rogue familiar
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:02):
Intelligent
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:02):
And gifted
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:02):
But not properly bonded
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:02):
Still familiars in every way, b ut not properly bonded to the mage
Zirra.tegatards says (22:02):
What would have happened to them after the great oopsie?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
As well as the animal just... not being affected
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
They wopuld continue
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
But, usually they were put down
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
HOWEVER
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
NOT ALWAYS
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
The mage had the right to choose
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
Many choose to let them live and keep them
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:03):
they were considered responsible for them
Zirra.tegatards says (22:04):
How is the animal likely to feel after becoming a Rogue Familiar?
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:04):
Is it kind of like a pre-oopsie dreg?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:04):
They feel no strong attatchment to the mage, at all
Zirra.tegatards says (22:04):
But would they resent being changed?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:04):
Honestly
Zirra.tegatards says (22:04):
Or would they be thankful for not being killed?
Zirra.tegatards says (22:04):
Resent that it was an option?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:04):
They would develop on their own
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:05):
Some would move to be great friends/companions
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:05):
Others, bitter enemies
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:05):
Some, utterly indifferent
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:05):
could the mage rage and kill the failed familiar
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:05):
The main difference
Zirra.tegatards says (22:05):
Would any of these rogues run away?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:05):
They could, and did
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:05):
He could Snowy, yes
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:06):
He would feel the pain of it
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:06):
The death of a Familiar is
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:06):
um
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:06):
EXTREMELY unpleasent
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:06):
The magical equivalent of multiple concurrent heart attacks and a srtroke
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:06):
are there any mages that ran away
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:06):
The benefits outweigh the lows, Dook
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:07):
yeah...
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:07):
The familiar is a perfect mind companion in every possible way
Zirra.tegatards says (22:07):
Are there ever situations where the Familiar ISN'T a perfect mind companion?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:07):
The rogue familiars
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:07):
Other than that
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:07):
not really :B
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:07):
ALSO
Zirra.tegatards says (22:08):
Hmm.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:08):
But..I mean..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:08):
hmm?
Zirra.tegatards says (22:08):
Okay...they have the animal for a long time before Familiar-ising it..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:08):
mages that ran, Snowy? how so?
Zirra.tegatards says (22:08):
Does the ritual change the animals basic personality?
Zirra.tegatards says (22:08):
To force it to be compatable?
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:08):
hmm
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:09):
Thats a little difficult to explain, its more like...
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:09):
during a ritual how about that..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:09):
They have a complete and perfect understanding of one another
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:09):
The personality develops based on the creature themselves
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:09):
Maybe with some subtle changes but...
Zirra.tegatards says (22:09):
Deelops.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:09):
Develops*
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:09):
Think of it kinda like being in love :B
Zirra.tegatards says (22:09):
But...wouldn't they have already HAD a personality before the Ritual.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:09):
8\
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:10):
Some mages might
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:10):
you don't stop being you when you're in love xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:10):
Thats my point XD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:10):
What I'm saying
Zirra.tegatards says (22:10):
This is why I was so keen on Uplift Familiar.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:10):
They could at least be ASKED if they wanted to bond.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:10):
>..>
Zirra.tegatards says (22:11):
Because...with the love comparison..
Zirra.tegatards says (22:11):
It's like they force the animal to love them....
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:11):
No familiar, ever, regrets being bonded, save in the rare case of the rogue familair
Zirra.tegatards says (22:11):
That's just it...
Zirra.tegatards says (22:11):
They couldn't because then they'd be a wreck.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:12):
Let me go back and elaborate on the personality thing
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:12):
The changes, are not forced
Zirra.tegatards says (22:12):
That bit of soul...to me...seems to completely wipe away any disagreeable sorta things with them.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:12):
In personality terms
Zirra.tegatards says (22:12):
Brainwashing them in a way.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:12):
The differences
Zirra.tegatards says (22:12):
Except...soulwashing.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:12):
Are only
Zirra.tegatards says (22:12):
Which can't be undone.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:12):
I'm sorry love but, no
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:12):
i think.. the animal likes the person already >.>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:12):
Just... no
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
there are means to communicarte with animals in this setting
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
Infact, it was very common place
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
the animals Would know
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:13):
so they can communicate before they become familiars?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
AND if the familiar animal
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
at any point
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
rejects the process
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
The ritual of bonding
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
Fails
Zirra.tegatards says (22:13):
Hmm...
Zirra.tegatards says (22:13):
But...what is the process...
Zirra.tegatards says (22:13):
Bah..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:13):
Animal based magic, yes
Zirra.tegatards says (22:14):
Animals...are...tricky..for me...for things like this..
Zirra.tegatards says (22:14):
Because...they really do NOT thinkg like humans...
Zirra.tegatards says (22:14):
Not even to do with intelligence...
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:14):
No they don't
Zirra.tegatards says (22:14):
They just have different thought processes.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:14):
XI
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:14):
Which I pointed out with Uplifts and Dregs
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:14):
xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:14):
WHAT I WAS SAYING
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:15):
about the personalities, though
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:15):
Its the introduction of sentience
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:15):
Thats the only real change
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:15):
And, to guide the new familiars into sentience
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:15):
The Familiar of their former master
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:15):
*Of the mage's master
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:15):
In turn
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:16):
acts as a guide to the awakening sentience of the Familiar
Zirra.tegatards says (22:16):
Hmm...
Zirra.tegatards says (22:16):
I imagine the creation of Familiars was at one point...a very hotly discussed thing.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:16):
Sorta like clonning is now a days.
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:16):
NOOO
Zirra.tegatards says (22:16):
Or...whatever.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:16):
Noooooot really
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:16):
Familiars were one of those old traditional things
Zirra.tegatards says (22:16):
I don't believe you. XP
Zirra.tegatards says (22:16):
Old traditions are questioned eventually.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:16):
I'm sorry love, Word of God in my setting :B
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:17):
traditional things weren't always traditional
Zirra.tegatards says (22:17):
That's why woman have rights.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:17):
XD
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:17):
So... I have a question about Dregs...
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:17):
Poor example
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:17):
XP
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:17):
Wazzat Dook?
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:17):
that's why we gave up pirating
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:17):
/better
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:17):
lol
Zirra.tegatards says (22:17):
/except we haven't, Snowy
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:17):
The familiars -were- debated and discussed
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:18):
/shh
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:18):
But, its not like it was a huge topic, as cloning is
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:18):
/don't tell him
Zirra.tegatards says (22:18):
I just...can't believe no one in the setting wondered about the changes forced on the animal.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:18):
Familairs are from the oldest oldest days of magic
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:18):
The society we are looking at
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:19):
Is a 1000 year old kingdom
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:19):
Was there occurance of dregs before the cataclysm? :o
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:19):
/imagines cavemen with familiars
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:19):
/just making sure
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:19):
lol, actually....
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:19):
Tribals, yes, cavemen.... I wouldn't go that far XD
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:19):
aw
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:19):
lol Snowy XD
Zirra.tegatards says (22:19):
Of course..
Zirra.tegatards says (22:20):
Now I'm wondering about the First Familiar......>..>
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:20):
then i could've asked about making a neaderthal or something a familiar >.>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:20):
Dregs before the cataclysm
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:20):
None that are known, they are pretty much a post Cataclysm occurence
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:20):
okay :o
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:21):
The thing is Dook
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:21):
Dregs -could- have existed
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:21):
If Uplifts had bred
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:21):
oooooohhhh
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:21):
yeah
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:21):
For multiple generations
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:21):
Or, bred in the wild
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:21):
But they never really got that chance
Zirra.tegatards says (22:21):
Dregs are exactly that.
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:22):
Those animals be gettin it ON
Zirra.tegatards says (22:22):
The last bit of magic in the animal before it's considered magicless.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:22):
And thus just an animal.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:22):
Not quite
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:22):
Dregs refer to animals that gain magic of sentience
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:22):
CLOSE though
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:23):
How do they gain sentience through Uplift intervention?
But yes...that sucks if two different species fall in love XD
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:25):
because theyre like hyperintelligent
Zirra.tegatards says (22:25):
Well.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:25):
Well... Firebird... Ice Paw <.<
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:25):
they can always addopt
Zirra.tegatards says (22:25):
Only in that they can't have kids, Skwerl. >w>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:25):
But, yes
Zirra.tegatards says (22:25):
They can still have fun...probably...
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:25):
can't they magic up some crossbreeds
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:25):
pfffft XD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:25):
Afraid not, Snowy XD
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:26):
Depends if the equpment fits/shot
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:26):
if we can combine plants, i mean..
Zirra.tegatards says (22:26):
Plants are simpler than animals. XB
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:26):
Yes, but plants are... different XD
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:26):
xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:26):
You're think chimerisation
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:26):
still.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:26):
Which can happen in the real world
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:26):
Chimarae... are possible
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:26):
But
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:26):
FAR TOO UNIQUE
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:26):
whats that mean?
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:26):
with all the genetics that's going on these days.. toss some magic in..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:27):
When you take zygote
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:27):
Of two different creatures
Zirra.tegatards says (22:27):
I would imagine they'd have to go to a specialist in "breeding" magics. >..>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:27):
And place them together
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:27):
...They need one
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:27):
seriously thatd be aweosme
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:27):
breeding magic
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:27):
The resulting creature is a Chimare
Zirra.tegatards says (22:27):
Somone who is to animals...what Bramble is to plants. >..>
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:27):
ah okay :B
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:27):
Yes
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:27):
You see it occur natually all the time, with creatures of the same species
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:28):
Biomancer
Zirra.tegatards says (22:28):
/can fell an manipulate genetics without really understanding what he's doing.
Zirra.tegatards says (22:28):
feel*
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:28):
YES
Zirra.tegatards says (22:28):
Doesn't always turn out well...but he does..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:28):
But, I really don't want to get into Chimarae XD
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:28):
could we use magic to insert genes from other species /same thing
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:28):
They are possible, and exist, but for the sake of sanity, they are off limits to players
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:29):
Sanity in explaining how they work
Zirra.tegatards says (22:29):
Very, very carefully.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:29):
And why the magic is pretty damn unnatural XD
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:30):
Then
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:30):
all the different species in love
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:30):
will come to you
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:30):
ken, were we only allowed 2 characters?
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:35):
I was wondering how Uplifts "intervened" with Dregs to make them magic-sentient
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:36):
Well, many Dregs are 'naturally' occuring from coalescing magic energies
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:36):
But, Familiars do create Dregs in a process similar to how Familiars themselves are created
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:36):
Its not as complicated
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:36):
And the two are not bound together
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:37):
But, basically, it just gifts them intellect
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:37):
what if a familiar fell in love with an animal and did that~
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:37):
Mny familiars, if they find a Feral mate, will have this ritual performed
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:37):
Did Frost Tail make Shadow Tail a dreg?
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:37):
Er, Shadow Paw*
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:37):
Its not always possible, sadly
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:38):
what if the dreg hates them after
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:38):
No, he didn't know anyne who could perform it
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:38):
since they're not bound and all
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:38):
ohhh okay
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:38):
Entirely possible, Snowy
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:38):
so it isn't like "here have sentience lol"
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:38):
it's more complicated XD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:38):
Well, its complicated as a ritual, but that basically what it is XD
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:39):
so they could make more than one dreg?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:39):
Most Dregs, though
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:39):
Are born as Dregs
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:39):
Or are effected by background magic
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:39):
from ferals infected with magics
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:39):
Yeah
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:39):
Some wild Dregs never learn what they are
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:40):
Ah, the ritual to create a Dreg
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:40):
so if a familiar got an animal pregnant.. they could make them all dregs?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:40):
If a familiar got the animal pregnant
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:40):
all the babies would be Uplifts XD
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:40):
butwait the mother would still be a dreg? or normal?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
But, theretically, since the ritual isn't as intricate
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
Yes, you could spark the ascendance of several Dregs at once
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
The mother is a normal animal, unless you did this
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
HOWEVER
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
That seems it would be a bad idea
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
I mean...
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
SUDDENLY SENTIENT
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:41):
Is traumatic
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:42):
a gopher family
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:42):
BOOM SENTIENCE
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:42):
And pregnant
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:42):
thats why Familiars are guided into it
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:42):
what if the animal got pregnant from both a familiar and a normal animal
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:42):
at the smae time
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:42):
could magic leech over in the womb?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:42):
Yes
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:43):
.. i don't know where i was going with that xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:43):
The ones not descended from the familiar
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:43):
Would be Dregs though
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:43):
that is .. random
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:43):
Unfotunately the... magical abilities of Uplifts
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:43):
would any be normal?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:43):
begin to manifest, in the womb, as well :x
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:44):
So Familiars could not create Dregs when humans were around for the same reason Uplifts weren't allowed?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:44):
Wait, what Dook?
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:44):
....I wonder
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:44):
OHH
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:44):
Yeah
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:45):
what happened when Marrow was int he womb could she have killed her mom xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
Yeah Skwerl
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:45):
xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
She could have
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
Its... uh
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
How Ice paw's mom died <.<
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
And... why she is an only child >.>
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
However, on the other hand
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:45):
Hmmm...
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
If marrow's mom
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
Is an Uplift
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:45):
A Necromancy Uplift
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:46):
Very good chance she would be immune
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:46):
what if
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:46):
to the effect Marrow has
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:46):
Hmmmm
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:46):
Ice paw's mom was a normal fox
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:46):
Yeh Snowy?
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:46):
necromancer familiar got pregnant, baby dies, could they bring it back ..
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:47):
didn't i ask something like that already..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:47):
You asked if a Familiar could be brought back to life XB
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:47):
something about necromancy too
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:47):
and you said something 'fallen' etc
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:47):
Familiars cannot be brought back from the dead... properlym ever
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:47):
yeah Fallen, heh
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:48):
As for Uplifts and Dregs
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:48):
Yes, -potetntially-
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:48):
'Some Familiars who die do not stay dead, and rise again as hateful abominations. Unable to find peace in death, and feeling even more deeply the loss of their former Masters, Fallen lash out at those who still live. In addition to the Magic they knew in life, Fallen gain understanding of dark magic that corrupts the world around them.
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:49):
so what if a fallen gets pregnant
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:49):
So the familiars that die after the cataclysm are unable to return to their master's sloul?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:49):
They can't Snowy XB
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:49):
KNEW THAT WAS COMING
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:49):
Are tehy dead?
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:49):
Or haf dead
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:49):
*half
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:49):
Or what
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:49):
Not every Familiar that dies becomes a Fallen
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:50):
what if they got pregnant before they became fallen
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:50):
Infact
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:50):
Fallen are exceedingly rare
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:50):
Dead babies, Snowy
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:50):
As in... just corpse meat
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:50):
/blunt
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:50):
.. what if they made puppets out of them like a crazy person :V
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:50):
Im wondering, since... Marrow can conrtol Dead bones
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:50):
they... might
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
Are they dead
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:51):
Fallen are undead
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
and she could potentially stop them
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
or
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
ah
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
IDK what that means
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
inrealtion to dead
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:51):
Undead is a weird place between life and death
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
at least stop them physically
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:51):
Zom,bies
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
Ah
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:51):
are undead
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
okay
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:51):
Actually Skwerl
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:51):
So probably not :B
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:51):
Marrow
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:51):
could marrow control uh.. ........ the dead half of that conjoined twin
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:51):
Would be the most useful in a fight against one
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:52):
really?
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:52):
Nice
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:52):
MARROW BE MY FRIEND
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:52):
Necromancy is as much about Undeath as Death
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:52):
Ah okay
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:52):
Sweet
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:52):
wait.. did you say that the dead conjoined twin would become a fallen.. how do you do halvsies
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:52):
Actually, necromancy has a lot to do with Life, too :B
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:52):
/ironically
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:52):
But more manipulation of it
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:53):
And draining/suppressing it
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:53):
yeah
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:53):
How would she be able to help though
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:53):
Snowy, likely they both would
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:53):
in a fight against one it says they are physically strong
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:53):
But, not necesarily
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:53):
if only one died though
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:54):
...lol, Snowy
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:54):
.. though i know that usually kills the other >.>
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:54):
BUT MAGIC
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:54):
they other would become sick and poisoned as the Fallen came back
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:54):
snowy's conjoined twin questions should make up the entire FAQ page
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:54):
Even if they didn't
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:54):
what if they .. cut them off..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:54):
Die immediately
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:54):
As for marrow fighting Fallen
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:55):
She could manipulate and hinder their flesh and bones
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:55):
To some degree
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:55):
Hm.....Sweeet.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:55):
Locking up joints and such :B
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:55):
But, it would still be dangerous as hell, I won't lie
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:56):
But pretty fricken sweet to pull off/shot
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:56):
Fallen seldom ever reveal themselves, unless they are certain they have mastery of a situation
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:56):
randomly, i'm still wondering if feather clothing exists..
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:56):
More often you will find/find Enslaved/Damned
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:56):
Feather clothing?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:56):
I don't see why not?
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:57):
like what i made for lady xD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:57):
You mean in real life?
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:57):
Can she hinder those as well?
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:57):
clothing that uses the interlocking teeth thingies of feathers as seamless zippers, basically..
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:57):
xDDDDD
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:57):
Yes, and much easier than a Fallen
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (22:58):
Ah Cool :B
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:58):
So what happens to Fallen that makes them Fallen? What is the unrest?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:58):
Damned are more or less Zombies
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:58):
When a Familiar dies
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:58):
In a state of great despair
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:58):
That is when it most often happens
Dookster.tegatards says to (22:58):
Oh.. ;_; that's really sad
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:58):
Their spirit/soul flees
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (22:59):
But their mind/body... wakes back up
snowybird.tegatards says to (22:59):
okay
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:00):
WHAT IF A CONJOINED TWIN GOT PREGNANT WITH A FAMILIAR AND A DREG AND THEN ONE OF THEM BECAME A FALLEN AND THEN THE OTHER DEATTACTED HIM AND
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:01):
The fallen would continue to exist until, the living twin would live
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:01):
and their babies
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:01):
And have a litter of Uplifts and Dregs
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:01):
OKAY WHILE THEY'RE MAKING A RITUAL FOR THEIR MATE WHO IS A HERMAPHRODITE TOO
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:01):
AND ALSO A CONJOINED TWIN
Dookster.tegatards says to (23:01):
this should totally be in the FAQ
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (23:01):
to be in the FAQ
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:02):
I like that answer, Akero XB
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:02):
a normal animal that is a conjoined twin, but twins of different gender, and then a familiar conjoined twin breeds with it and wants to make it a dreg DUH.
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:03):
Familiars always reproduce Uplifts
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:03):
but with all the fallen stuff and stuff
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:03):
Fallen can't pregnant
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:03):
could you make one conjoined twin a familiar
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:03):
without the other being
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:04):
A conjoined Familiar, both would technically be familiars
RadioaktivSkwerl.tegatards says to (23:04):
a conjoined familiar now
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:04):
what if they're joined at the arm not brainsoul
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:04):
could you just use one soul
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:05):
Then they would have been long seperated
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:05):
Before the ritual
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:05):
To prevent ritual failure
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:05):
what if you tried anyways
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:05):
Ritual failure :B
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:05):
in that situation could two people use one soul each
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:05):
double ritual
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:06):
Afraid not
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:06):
The ritual
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:06):
Is complex and delicate enough XD
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:06):
did you answer the conjoined twin human and the conjoined twin animal?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:06):
I did
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:07):
Two humans cannot Familiar the same animal
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:07):
Conjoined or not XD
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:07):
what if they're conjoined at the brain
snowybird.tegatards says to (23:07):
annoyingly
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:07):
Still the same XD
Dookster.tegatards says to (23:11):
Hmm... So Dregs... to what extent is their sentience different from Uplifts and Familiars?
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:11):
Dregs think more like animals
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:11):
Where as Familiars think in the same ways as humans
Kensei Kitsune.u says to (23:11):
Uplifts are somewhere in the middle